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Telescope Making in Cuba?

04 Friday Dec 2015

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ATM, cuba, dobsonian, Grit, Mirror, Optics, Polishing, Telescope

Inspired by a Canadian amateur astronomer who visited the place, I’ve been in recent contact by email with some potential amateur telescope makers in Cuba. 
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I proposed bringing the optics for some completed 4″ to 8″ Newtonian telescopes in my luggage (ie parabolized & aluminized mirrors, diagonals, and eyepieces) and then giving them ideas and assistance on making the rest of the scopes. I have a number of already-completed primaries and diagonals at our DC telescope making workshop, but would have to scrounge around for eyepieces. 
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(If mechanics in Cuba can keep 1958-model cars running for over 50 years, I bet that they can probably improvise other stuff a la John Dobson, if they have any raw materials at all, which I am not sure about). I am also not sure whether I should bring focusers and spiders, or whether they should make them there themselves…
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I understand from the Cubans that there are almost no telescopes in the entire country except for one no-longer-operational telescope at the University of Havana’s observatory, and certainly no Dobsonians. They sound quite interested in the idea, and also were suggesting that I might stay long enough to demonstrate how to grind and polish and figure a mirror.  If I follow up on that idea, it would probably require me bringing in abrasives and pitch in addition to the finished mirrors, which might cause further luggage problems. Explaining finished mirrors carefully wrapped up is one thing, but containers of, say, 15-micron WAO microgrit? They might cut open the bag and test to see if it’s really cocaine…. thus contaminating it…
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Both the Canadian and the Cubans said that bringing in materials officially labeled as ‘gifts’ would entail lots of red tape and delays.
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For me, the payback would be the chance to practice my crappy Spanish in an exotic place that I’ve never visited, and to observe from Tropical skies that suffer relatively low light pollution, as well as doing some good in a country that seems to have a low violent crime rate…. I was planning on flying to Mexico or the Bahamas and then getting a flight to Havana, which seems cheaper than an official direct flight. I suspect that since this would be a scientific exchange, I might even be able to get both governments to sign off and issue an official visa or whatever.
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Any thoughts? Anybody ever been there?

Fine and Intermediate Grinding of Your Mirror

15 Monday Dec 2014

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3. Grinding (intermediate and fine): Once you have reached your goal for the sagitta, and inspected it, then it’s time to move on to the next smaller grit size and to a more conventional grinding technique. First of all, throw away all of the used newspaper, rinse out the water bucket, wipe off and put away the grit container, and clean off the workbench. Wash or rinse your hands, and make sure that your clothing does not contain the previous grit size. Then get new clean newsprint, clean water, and the next smaller grit size. Again, dampen the newsprint to keep the mirror and tool from sliding around.

 A. You will NOT be using the circular stroke once you are past the hogging-out stage. You will instead be doing a center-over-center stroke, where the mirror or tool that is on top is pushed back and forth in a straight line away and towards your body, such that the top piece of glass will project forwards, and then backwards, by about 1/6 of the diameter of your mirror. You will do this for maybe 8 to 10 times, then rotate both to avoid astigmatism. With 6”, 8”, and 10” mirrors, a decent rule of thumb is to budget an hour of grinding per grit size, or more. Otherwise, the grinding sequence is the same, including the regular rotation process.

 B. Here is one possible sequence of grits for an 8” or 10” mirror, but there are other possibilities. We have lots of different sizes of grits, made by various manufacturers over the past 50 years, and so we use a lot of steps. Other people don’t have as many sizes, and they will use fewer steps, but take longer at each grit size. The 60-400 grit sizes are generally made of silicon carbide (trade name Carborundum, formula SiC, which is also made into jewelry under the chemical name Moissanite or names like “Diamond Aura). Past that, most grits are aluminum oxide. Notice the different methods of measuring the grit – up through 400 grit, the number theoretically means the number of grains that it would take to make one linear inch. The micron sizes are in millionths of a meter, or thousandths of a millimeter. I have collected a number of tables that supposedly show how these sizes are related. Unfortunately, the tables do not agree with each other. We generally prepare slurries with the micron-measured grits; this means that you need to shake up the slurry before applying it to the work, but it also means you have fewer chances to contaminate your work.

 60 grit  (hogging out)

80 grit

120 grit

220 grit

320 grit

400 grit

30 micron

25 micron

17 micron

9 micron

5 micron

3 micron

 C. When you get into the micron sizes, you need to be on guard against the mirror sticking to the tool. If you feel them beginning to ‘catch’ and stick, then immediately separate them and add more slurry. If they do stick together, it’s merely a pain in the tush, not a disaster – we just use bar clamps and pieces of wood to carefully press the tool and mirror past the other. If this happens at home and you don’t have a long bar clamp, you can instead put them both into a clean bucket of warm water with a drop or two of detergent and wait for a while, then push; alternate with a bucket of cool water with some detergent and wait for a while, then push; repeat as necessary until they come apart. Don’t use boiling or near-freezing water because the thermal shock could possibly crack either the tool or the mirror.

 D. Be careful about contamination. It will only take a single grain of 120 grit to make a nasty bunch of scratches in a mirror that you are fine-grinding at 5 microns! Be paranoid! Dust particles can linger anywhere! Wash your hands frequently, don’t re-use paper towels that have dropped on the floor, clean off your work surface after you are done, and use plenty of clean newsprint to cover the workbenches. (However, a few scratches will NOT measurably damage the optical qualities of your telescope. It’s much more important that the overall figure be good.) Also watch out for grit or sawdust or metal chips sticking to your clothes and hair. To help prevent contamination, we have installed a large screened tent canopy. Only work under there for polishing and figuring.

 E. When to move to the next grit? Use your naked eye, and/or an inexpensive illuminated microscope to check for uniformity of wear all over the mirror before proceeding to the next step. With some of those microscopes is possible to use a cell phone to take photos of the texture of the glass. Make sure the texture is the same near the edge of your mirror as it is in the center. If it’s not, keep grinding for a while.

 F. You won’t be able to change the focal length very much once you are past 120 grit, so use your spherometer and a combination of work with tool on top (TOT) and mirror on top (MOT) to get the focal length where you want it to be before you move onto 220 grit. Remember: MOT will make the sagitta deeper, which means a shorter focal length, and TOT does the exact opposite.

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